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splendidmike
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I check out equipment to abusive production students, and I'm mainly
looking for a case that will keep the overly priced Sennheiser MZW
70-1 or 60-1 zeppelins safe and sound. Ideally, I'd also love to
snuggly pack in these things:
- ME66/K6 shotgun mic
- 30" boom
- Senn. 20-1 pistol grip
- fuzzy cover
- headphones
- XLR cable

I know that's a lot of crap, but I feel like this has got to be a
fairly common set up, so I thought I'd ask here. A portabrace tripod
bag would certainly hold it all, but the zepps are so damn fragile...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

On May 14, 5:13 pm, splendidmike <wikument...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Hi all,

I check out equipment to abusive production students, and I'm mainly
looking for a case that will keep the overly priced Sennheiser MZW
70-1 or 60-1 zeppelins safe and sound. Ideally, I'd also love to
snuggly pack in these things:
- ME66/K6 shotgun mic
- 30" boom
- Senn. 20-1 pistol grip
- fuzzy cover
- headphones
- XLR cable

I know that's a lot of crap, but I feel like this has got to be a
fairly common set up, so I thought I'd ask here. A portabrace tripod
bag would certainly hold it all, but the zepps are so damn fragile...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike
[/quote]
Check out the Doscocil cases at www.markertek.com for everything but
the boom pole. For the pole a fishing rod case from Walmart or your
local sporting goods store will do the job.


Eric
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

On May 14, 5:17 pm, audio...@bellsouth.net wrote:
[quote]On May 14, 5:13 pm, splendidmike <wikument...@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi all,

I check out equipment to abusive production students, and I'm mainly
looking for a case that will keep the overly priced Sennheiser MZW
70-1 or 60-1 zeppelins safe and sound. Ideally, I'd also love to
snuggly pack in these things:
- ME66/K6 shotgun mic
- 30" boom
- Senn. 20-1 pistol grip
- fuzzy cover
- headphones
- XLR cable

I know that's a lot of crap, but I feel like this has got to be a
fairly common set up, so I thought I'd ask here. A portabrace tripod
bag would certainly hold it all, but the zepps are so damn fragile...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike

Check out the Doskocil cases atwww.markertek.comfor everything but
the boom pole. For the pole a fishing rod case from Walmart or your
local sporting goods store will do the job.

Eric- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
[/quote]
Perhaps for less money a hard sided rolling luggage case will do the
job.

Eric
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David Waelder
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:45 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

On 5/14/08 2:13 PM, in article
779f156b-d5b1-4ba2-a7a6-753fbbd472c1@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com,
"splendidmike" <wikumentary@gmail.com> wrote:

[quote]Hi all,

I check out equipment to abusive production students, and I'm mainly
looking for a case that will keep the overly priced Sennheiser MZW
70-1 or 60-1 zeppelins safe and sound. Ideally, I'd also love to
snuggly pack in these things:
- ME66/K6 shotgun mic
- 30" boom
- Senn. 20-1 pistol grip
- fuzzy cover
- headphones
- XLR cable
[snip][/quote]

This response may not be exactly what you were asking for but I suggest an
alternate way of dealing with the challenge.

Some of the guys doing features and TV work rig microphone "stations" on
their follow carts. This consists of a fat PVC tube, just a bit longer than
the zeppelin, with a slot cut in it. The zeppelin windscreen, typically with
the microphone and shock mount attached, slides into the tube. The slot
permits the handgrip or base of the shock mount to stay attached. This
contraption is mounted to a cart, keeping the mikes and windscreens
protected but also available for immediate deployment. In your case, there
probably isn't a cart but two tubes could be strapped together to hold two
mikes.

Then the other small accessories go into whatever small case is suitable.

It's one of those things you can try out for the cost of some small supplies
from the hardware store. If it doesn't work for you, try one of the more
expensive options. It won't work if you need to travel by plane but it ought
to provide even student level protection for gear transported in the trunks
of cars.

David Waelder
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Sylvan Morein, DDS
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Robert Morein finally tires Reply with quote

In article 779f156b-d5b1-4ba2-a7a6-753fbbd472c1@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com,
"splendidmike" <wikumentary@gmail.com> wrote:

[quote]I know that's a lot of crap, but I feel like this has got to be a
fairly common set up,
[/quote]
Well Mike, you've fortunately come at a time when my sick son Robert Morein
has tired of his latest hobby, "sound engineer". Like everything he's ever
done, because he's too mentally ill to put in the time and energy, he
eventually realises that it requires talent and skill and hard work, none of
which he has.

He was glib enough to get INTO Drexel University - but expected that this
fine institution would give him a degree for "almost knowing enough". They
wouldn't and finally kicked him out. He can't stop masquerading as a
"scientist". He has nothing else to do.

As he told the newspaper when they interviewed him, ""I don't really have a
replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very gnawing thing." Now he's
spent a couple years gnawing on you and your group. It looks to finally be
coming to an end.

Think about it. . . My one and only son has lived in the same room, in the
same house, in MY house, since the early 1950's. He's never had a job.
NEVER. He always impressed everyone as a "smart guy", although I and
everyone else know now that he's just a bullshit artist. SURE he's "smart"
- he went to college for almost 20 years on my dime!

His room is filled with electronics, computers, wires, empty beer cans, and
all nature of trash. He rarely leaves the house, but spends hours in the
basement "inventing". Do you know how many times we've had police, FBI,
Secret Service, and other investigators here? They won't charge him because
he's mentally ill.

$100,000 to the first person that can get this 54 year old into a job, any
job, and out of my house.

Sylvan Morein, DDS



PROVEN PUBLISHED FACTS about my Son, Robert Morein
--

Robert Morein History
--
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/4853918.htm

[quote]Doctoral student takes intellectual property case to Supreme Court
By L. STUART DITZEN
Philadelphia Inquirer

PHILADELPHIA -Even the professors who dismissed him from a doctoral program
at Drexel University agreed that Robert Morein was uncommonly smart.

They apparently didn't realize that he was uncommonly stubborn too - so much
so that he would mount a court fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court
to challenge his dismissal.
[/quote]
The Supremes have already rejected this appeal, btw.
[quote]
"It's a personality trait I have - I'm a tenacious guy," said Morein, a
pleasantly eccentric man regarded by friends as an inventive genius. "And we
do come to a larger issue here."
[/quote]
An "inventive genius" that has never invented anything. And hardly
"pleasantly" eccentric.

[quote]A five-year legal battle between this unusual ex-student and one of
Philadelphia's premier educational institutions has gone largely unnoticed
by the media and the public.
[/quote]
Because no one gives a shit about a 50 year old loser.
[quote]
But it has been the subject of much attention in academia.

Drexel says it dismissed Morein in 1995 because he failed, after eight
years, to complete a thesis required for a doctorate in electrical and
computer engineering.
[/quote]
Not to mention the 12 years it took him to get thru high school!
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[quote]
Morein, 50, of Dresher, Pa., contends that he was dismissed only after his
thesis adviser "appropriated" an innovative idea Morein had developed in a
rarefied area of thought called "estimation theory" and arranged to have it
patented.
[/quote]
A contention rejected by three courts. From a 50 YEAR OLD that has
done NOTHING PRODUCTIVE with his life.

[quote]
In February 2000, Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Esther R. Sylvester
ruled that Morein's adviser indeed had taken his idea.
[/quote]
An idea that was worth nothing, because it didn't work. Just like
Robert Morein, who has never worked a day in his life.

[quote]
Sylvester held that Morein had been unjustly dismissed and she ordered
Drexel to reinstate him or refund his tuition.
[/quote]
Funnily enough, Drexel AGREED to reinstate Morein, who rejected the
offer because he knew he was and IS a failed loser. Spending daddy's
money to cover up his lack of productivity.
[quote]
That brought roars of protest from the lions of academia. There is a long
tradition in America of noninterference by the courts in academic decisions.

Backed by every major university in Pennsylvania and organizations
representing thousands of others around the country, Drexel appealed to the
state Superior Court.

The appellate court, by a 2-1 vote, reversed Sylvester in June 2001 and
restored the status quo. Morein was, once again, out at Drexel. And the
time-honored axiom that courts ought to keep their noses out of academic
affairs was reasserted.

The state Supreme Court declined to review the case and, in an ordinary
litigation, that would have been the end of it.

But Morein, in a quixotic gesture that goes steeply against the odds, has
asked the highest court in the land to give him a hearing.
[/quote]
Daddy throws more money down the crapper.

[quote]His attorney, Faye Riva Cohen, said the Supreme Court appeal is important
even if it fails because it raises the issue of whether a university has a
right to lay claim to a student's ideas - or intellectual property - without
compensation.

"Any time you are in a Ph.D. program, you are a serf, you are a slave," said
Cohen. Morein "is concerned not only for himself. He feels that what
happened to him is pretty common."
[/quote]
It's called HIGHER EDUCATION, honey. The students aren't in charge,
the UNIVERSITY and PROFESSORS are.


[quote]Drexel's attorney, Neil J. Hamburg, called Morein's appeal - and his claim
that his idea was stolen - "preposterous."

"I will eat my shoe if the Supreme Court hears this case," declared Hamburg.
"We're not even going to file a response. He is a brilliant guy, but his
intelligence should be used for the advancement of society rather than
pursuing self-destructive litigation."
[/quote]
No shit sherlock.

[quote]The litigation began in 1997, when Morein sued Drexel claiming that a
committee of professors had dumped him after he accused his faculty adviser,
Paul Kalata, of appropriating his idea.

His concept was considered to have potential value for businesses in
minutely measuring the internal functions of machines, industrial processes
and electronic systems.

The field of "estimation theory" is one in which scientists attempt to
calculate what they cannot plainly observe, such as the inside workings of a
nuclear plant or a computer.
[/quote]
My estimation theory? There is NO brain at work inside the head of
Robert Morein, only sawdust.

[quote]
Prior to Morein's dismissal, Drexel looked into his complaint against Kalata
and concluded that the associate professor had done nothing wrong. Kalata,
through a university lawyer, declined to comment.

At a nonjury trial before Sylvester in 1999, Morein testified that Kalata in
1990 had posed a technical problem for him to study for his thesis. It
related to estimation theory.

Kalata, who did not appear at the trial, said in a 1998 deposition that a
Cherry Hill company for which he was a paid consultant, K-Tron
International, had asked him to develop an alternate estimation method for
it. The company manufactures bulk material feeders and conveyors used in
industrial processes.

Morein testified that, after much study, he experienced "a flash of
inspiration" and came up with a novel mathematical concept to address the
problem Kalata had presented.

Without his knowledge, Morein said, Kalata shared the idea with K-Tron.

K-Tron then applied for a patent, listing Kalata and Morein as co-inventors.

Morein said he agreed "under duress" to the arrangement, but felt "locked
into a highly disadvantageous situation." As a result, he testified, he
became alienated from Kalata.

As events unfolded, Kalata signed over his interest in the patent to K-Tron.
The company never capitalized on the technology and eventually allowed the
patent to lapse. No one made any money from it.
[/quote]
Because it was bogus. Even Kalata was mortified that he was a victim
of this SCAMSTER, Robert Morein.

[quote]In 1991, Morein went to the head of Drexel's electrical engineering
department, accused Kalata of appropriating his intellectual property, and
asked for a new faculty adviser.
[/quote]
The staff at Drexel laughed wildly at the ignorance of Robert Morein.

[quote]He didn't get one. Instead, a committee of four professors, including
Kalata, was formed to oversee Morein's thesis work.

Four years later, the committee dismissed him, saying he had failed to
complete his thesis.
[/quote]
So Morein fucks up his first couple years, gets new faculty advisers
(a TEAM), and then fucks up again! Brilliant!

[quote]
Morein claimed that the committee intentionally had undermined him.
[/quote]
Morein makes LOTS of claims that are nonsense. One look thru the
usenet proves it.

[quote]
Judge Sylvester agreed. In her ruling, Sylvester wrote: "It is this court's
opinion that the defendants were motivated by bad faith and ill will."
[/quote]
So much for political machine judges.
[quote]
The U.S. Supreme Court receives 7,000 appeals a year and agrees to hear only
about 100 of them.

Hamburg, Drexel's attorney, is betting the high court will reject Morein's
appeal out of hand because its focal point - concerning a student's right to
intellectual property - was not central to the litigation in the
Pennsylvania courts.

Morein said he understands it's a long shot, but he feels he must pursue it.
[/quote]
Failure. Look it up in Websters. You'll see a picture of Robert
Morein. The poster boy for SCAMMING LOSERS.

[quote]"I had to seek closure," he said.

Without a doctorate, he said, he has been unable to pursue a career he had
hoped would lead him into research on artificial intelligence.
[/quote]
Who better to tell us about "artificial intelligence".
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[quote]
As it is, Morein lives at home with his father and makes a modest income
from stock investments. He has written a film script that he is trying to
make into a movie. And in the basement of his father's home he is working on
an invention, an industrial pump so powerful it could cut steel with a
bulletlike stream of water.
[/quote]

FAILED STUDENT
FAILED MOVIE MAKER
FAILED SCREENWRITER
FAILED INVESTOR
FAILED DRIVER
FAILED SON
FAILED PARENTS
FAILED INVENTOR
FAILED PLAINTIFF
FAILED HOMOSEXUAL
FAILED HUMAN
FAILED
FAILED

[quote]But none of it is what he had imagined for himself.

"I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very
gnawing thing."[/quote]
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Charles Tomaras
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

"splendidmike" <wikumentary@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:779f156b-d5b1-4ba2-a7a6-753fbbd472c1@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
[quote]Hi all,

I check out equipment to abusive production students, and I'm mainly
looking for a case that will keep the overly priced Sennheiser MZW
70-1 or 60-1 zeppelins safe and sound. Ideally, I'd also love to
snuggly pack in these things:
- ME66/K6 shotgun mic
- 30" boom
- Senn. 20-1 pistol grip
- fuzzy cover
- headphones
- XLR cable

I know that's a lot of crap, but I feel like this has got to be a
fairly common set up, so I thought I'd ask here. A portabrace tripod
bag would certainly hold it all, but the zepps are so damn fragile...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike
[/quote]
Any of the Pelican gun cases work great for everything you mention. I keep
two poles and a Rycote Zeppelin (416 size) fully protected in their smallest
gun case with room for some extra bits and pieces.
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Boomboom
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

Like Charles said, the Pelican gun cases will fit the job; plus you
can pack a small mixer and other accessories into the unused areas in
the case once the boom+zep' are in place.
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vin
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

isn't there something called Boom Tube?
best
-vin
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cmassey
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

No, that's BOOB TUBE, and a lot of our work winds up there!!!!


cleve
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Boomboom
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

I doubt the zep' will fit into the boom tube. As for the boob tube,
maybe with a size C and higher... :P
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Charles Tomaras
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

"Boomboom" <compre55ion@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3db9c52e-f6af-4853-94bf-a87fa42b5086@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
[quote]Like Charles said, the Pelican gun cases will fit the job; plus you
can pack a small mixer and other accessories into the unused areas in
the case once the boom+zep' are in place.
[/quote]
Storm also makes gun type cases that are a bit cheaper than Pelican. You can
find them both at www.cases4less.com
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Rick PV8945@aol.com
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

splendidmike wrote:
[quote]Hi all,

I check out equipment to abusive production students, and I'm mainly
looking for a case that will keep the overly priced Sennheiser MZW
70-1 or 60-1 zeppelins safe and sound. Ideally, I'd also love to
snuggly pack in these things:
- ME66/K6 shotgun mic
- 30" boom
- Senn. 20-1 pistol grip
- fuzzy cover
- headphones
- XLR cable

I know that's a lot of crap, but I feel like this has got to be a
fairly common set up, so I thought I'd ask here. A portabrace tripod
bag would certainly hold it all, but the zepps are so damn fragile...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike
[/quote]


If you are looking for a bargain basement priced case that will work
well, run down to a sporting goods store and check out a hard shell
rifle case. Probably about $35.00
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splendidmike
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

In case anybody's wondering, I'm going with these cardboard mailers
from Uline to hold the zepps, then I'm going to throw it all in a
portabrace tripod case:
5 x 24" Kraft Mailing Tubes with End Caps
http://www.uline.com/ProductDetail.asp?model=S-10723

The dimensions are just about perfect.

Thanks for all the responses.

Mike
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Charles Tomaras
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

"splendidmike" <wikumentary@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a97abded-217f-44a2-8a0e-96f79a93112c@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
[quote]In case anybody's wondering, I'm going with these cardboard mailers
from Uline to hold the zepps, then I'm going to throw it all in a
portabrace tripod case:
5 x 24" Kraft Mailing Tubes with End Caps
http://www.uline.com/ProductDetail.asp?model=S-10723

The dimensions are just about perfect.

Thanks for all the responses.

Mike
[/quote]
Interesting solution. The only thing I will add about my suggestion for
Pelican gun type cases is that you can leave the zeppelin full assembled
with a mic mounted within which means very fast access and deployment in the
field. I haven't measured, but I'm imagining you are going to have to break
everything down to use a 5in internal diameter tube.
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splendidmike
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: case for boom+mic+zeppelin? Reply with quote

Charles, you're definitely right - that would be much quicker in the
field. If it were my personal rig, I'd probably go for something like
that. But for better or worse - mostly worse! - the students need to
be able to assemble a boom rig when they graduate. As simple as that
is, if they never had to do that with the equipment I check out to
them, 90% of them wouldn't be able to do it. And hence the eternal
paradox of my job: make sure the equipment is as fool-proof as
reasonable without robbing the students of a learning experience!

Sure would lose a lot less shockmount bands that way, though...

M

[quote]Interesting solution. The only thing I will add about my suggestion for
Pelican gun type cases is that you can leave the zeppelin full assembled
with a mic mounted within which means very fast access and deployment in the
field. I haven't measured, but I'm imagining you are going to have to break
everything down to use a 5in internal diameter tube.[/quote]
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